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#40: Billy McMillan of NASA on Innovation
Today's episode comes to you from...the NASA headquarters! I was lucky enough to head down to Washington, DC to speak with Billy McMillan, the Human Innovation Officer at NASA. When we think about NASA, we typically think about scientists, engineers...but you don't often think of the other roles that play such a huge part in creating the discoveries that are made today. It was such a thrill to talk to Billy about some of the amazing things he is working on and how our philosophies intersect.
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00:02:27 What learned helplessness actually is
00:04:02 The flea experiment
00:06:38 The five monkeys experiment
00:08:27 Phrases that signal learned helplessness
00:10:03 Alex's personal story: the lunges that haunted him
00:14:04 Technique 1: name the excuse, ask what else
00:15:08 Technique 2: swap why and who for what and how
00:17:41 Technique 3: thinking inside-the-box
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