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S2E16: Martha Beck, sociologist, best-selling author, speaker
I almost can't put into words how excited I am to have the incredible Martha Beck on my podcast today. This is someone I look up and have learned so much from, and I'm so happy to have her on today's episode.
We talked about a wide variety of topics, from her theory of fractals in your inner life to integrity within the self. A fascinating conversation. Hope you enjoy.
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